Kids These Days: Spotify, Radiohead, and the Devaluation of Music

The other day I had an epiphany: To the average music consumer, a song is worth less than a candy bar. It might last longer, sound sweeter, and offer a more meaningful experience, but don't ask us to spend more than $1 on it. In fact, we'd prefer you didn't ask us to spend any money at all. That's why we loved Napster, that's why we loved Pandora, and that's why we love Spotify.

Early last summer the popular European digital music service Spotify came to the United States with much blog buzz and fanfare. Boasting a catalog of over 15 million songs, Spotify offers free streaming access to its entire library through any laptop or mobile device. It's ad supported, but subscribers willing to shell out $10 a month can enjoy their playlists without the interruption of advertisements. Not a bad deal for music fans. And at first glance, it's not a bad deal for musicians either. The artist is paid royalties on a per play basis. Everybody wins, right? Not really.

Spotify

Will Baker

Spotify doesn't pay pennies on the dollar, it pays pennies on the penny. Recently, indie label Projekt Records pulled out of its deal with Spotify, citing a minuscule $0.0013-per-play payout as one reason for bailing. In 2010, The Guardian published an article in which author Sam Leith revealed a rather shocking piece of information: In the space of a few months, Lady Gaga's smash hit "Poker Face" received over 1 million streams. She was compensated to the tune of $167.

Spotify has since countered that claim, saying that the number is misleading and refers to the performance and publishing royalties paid to the collecting agency of the song's Swedish co-writer. But $167 sounds absurdly low no matter how you slice it. Of course, one could argue that Lady Gaga and her team don't need the money. Fans argued the same thing after Metallica sued Napster in 2000. When the conflict is framed as a David-and-Goliath showdown between mega-rich rock stars and broke college students, there's little question who will win the fight for the public's sympathy.

But that's not the battle that's being fought. The real victims here are so powerless no one even remembers they exist. When an established band like Radiohead gives away a record for free (as it did with "In Rainbows") it increases exposure, which in turn boosts touring and merchandising revenue. But the vast majority of bands out there aren't Radiohead. They're small, unknown groups with no money or support structure. Sure, they can give away their record. But will anyone notice or care? Probably not. Meanwhile, Radiohead and Spotify are busy teaching us that, as consumers, we aren't responsible for compensating our artists. In fact, we're being conditioned to feel inherently entitled to the fruits of their labor. The amount of time and money the artist has invested is of little concern. If we listen to something, then it is ours. It's a perspective similar to that of a small child who sees a new toy and shouts, "MINE!" He's always been given everything he wants. Why should this be any different?

Many of us like to celebrate the apparent demise of the big, bad record companies as a justification for this behavior. We like to say that their business model is outdated and now they're paying the price. Good riddance, we say. Greedy bastards! But guess what? We've been singing that tune for over a decade, and those greedy record companies are still here. Sure, they're wounded. So they consolidate. They drop artists from their roster. They stop developing young acts. They stop signing new bands. They stop taking risks on anything different or exciting. They dump all their money into the tiny handful of top-grossing acts that keep the label afloat, like Lady Gaga and Metallica. When they do sign anyone, they sign safe bets like American Idol contestants and YouTube child sensations.

The unknown bands are left floundering in cyberspace, hoping in vain that they can amass enough Facebook fans to entice industry folk and get noticed. If they're smart, they tour. But touring is expensive, and since their records aren't selling well at gigs, they have trouble keeping the van gassed up. Unless they've been blessed with an angel investor or rich parents, life on the road isn't financially sustainable. So they figure the Internet is the way to go. Them and about 15 million others. They try to get some blog attention. Maybe Pitchfork will pick them up as the flavor of the month. But then what? I still don't have any friends who listen to The Weeknd. Bands don't break through blogs.

Point is, it's hard out there for the little guys, the unknowns. And let's be honest, the trickle-down devaluation of music hasn't been much better for audiences than it has for bands. Sure we save a couple dollars, but the culture of one-hit-wonders, reality star divas, and the general cycle of crap that gets churned out by the pop culture machine has only worsened, thanks to musical Reaganomics. They say the customer is always right, but when the customer stops valuing the product, why bother investing in its production? Innovation dies in favor of the fast, the cheap and the guaranteed.

So pay for your music, boys and girls. Support the good stuff that's out there, and skip services like Spotify. We can't afford to live off candy bars forever.

Comments

I don't think so...

First, I am a premium Spotify member. Spotify is great for listening to the unknown Indie artists. However, the idea that everyone will make money if they make an album is bogus. Its never worked that way. The majority of artists/bands who create albums don't make any money because, well, their music just isn't that good.

bread and circuses

Guys, let's move on. We've done with musicians. I think bakers should work for free. There's nothing special in what they do. Let's stop paying for bread!

What IS All This Opinion?

Just two things I want to point out. #1 People keep mentioning the "high cost" of music. I lived through the transition from tape to CD—sure, I didn't see record to tape, so sue me—and I am NOT rich.... the cost of a CD is *NOT* prohibitive. People are talking about $20 CDs like it's a "high" cost. Most LPs cost $15>. I own about 200 - 300 albums and at least 350+ discs. Lots of box sets, some more than your standard 6 disc boxes. I always thought of the BOX SETS as being cheap, compared to what I was getting value-wise. Music doesn't cost a lot. If you can't afford to buy a CD you're pathetic. You can pay a dollar to buy a song on iTunes. What would you think of somebody who complained about the price of the items on McDonald's 'dollar menu'? Stop whining, suck it up and be a MAN. Secondly, people are actually saying that the Radiohead model of offering a free CD is a great model for indie bands to follow. I just want to point out that if you have millions of loyal fans and have sold 30+ million albums like Radiohead, have had major label success or been on the cover of magazines like some others, than it probably is the fact that you're already famous that your strategies are successful. Make no mistake about that. Giving away a hard fought first LP probably is NOT the best way for a new band to get their name out there. Like they say, it's only as good as the price you pay for it. That's how a lot of people think. If you get it for free you're honestly more likely to use it for kitty litter or just throw it in the trash. If that's people's first impression of you that's bad news. So unless your audience is like some of the posts to this article—not to take a denigrating tone—and they buy off the dollar menu at McDonald's maybe sell your music for a reasonable price if you think your audience can buy it.... and still eat.

I'm spending more, not less.

Because of this service I have been exposed to bands and artists that previously I'd never heard of. When I like something enough to want to listen to it with greater frequency or across mobile devices, I buy it. If they perform in my town, I'll pay to hear them live. I don't understand how this is anything but good news for new artists.

360

in the past record companies would take every penny an artist made on record sales, but they were nice enough to leave the money from touring (merch, tix, licensing) to the band. since record sales dont really matter anymore, the labels take the bands touring money to stay a float. this is called a 360 deal. not so good for a new artist, is it?

Sounds wonderful, but...

I'm genuinely glad to read that there are people like you - I have sold one (1) of my band's CD's because somebody heard us on Psotify, but this was someone who recognised me in a park and shouted to me: Where can I find your CD, and I directed her to the local music shop (having run out of these CDs myself). Later she stopped me to get an autograph. But this is possible only in a small town, isn't it? I don't know how to be non-anonymous except signing here: Stani Steinbock, Aland islands, Europe

it doesn't pay

Exposure is no good to an artist if it doesn't eventually translate to dollars. If they're in your playlist, great. Did you pay for the tracks in your playlist? It means very little if you know all about a band and you like their music, but you don't buy something from them or attend their gigs.

Al Church and State

This band is the new Radiohead. http://www.facebook.com/AlChurchAndState?ref=ts

Free music...

This "want it free" craze is even more insidious than all that... My wife has two small, Indie labels and depends on sales of one CD to fund the next, with a long lineup of Portland, OR area musicians waiting their turn. Her mission is "The preservation of truly great music," with a focus on Portland good time Americana. ( http://www.frederickproductions.com ) Most of the time, it's just runs of 300, with studio budgets most others would laugh at. It's all a work of love, honoring her late husband, Jeffrey Frederick's dying request to care for his music, but it would be nice it this could support her and her efforts. So every "innocent" copy or online sharing of a CD hurts, don't even know if her music is up on Spotify. Napster pays a whopping penny per song download. Used to be she could recover the cost of a CD at the release party, but today folks come up, read the packaging, fondle it, hand it back and say they don't have any money (and then go get a couple more drinks). Dozens of people ask for free copies, because they are friends or acquaintences. One of our musicians reports that his son just goes to YouTube, watches a song on video once, and is doen with it. Other "friends" of our musicians have ripped songs off their new CD and posted them on YouTube with a picture of the album cover! Even musicians seem to want a free ride -- like telling us that we can do house parties for them and give them 100% of the door. And let's not even think about the fact that her distributor hasn't paid for hard opy CDs in something like 2 years (even if Amazon claims they're being restocked again and again). We're proud that we're able to give these great musicians a record that is distributed around the world, but economically every loses.

what a shitty world.

It's so sad, the state of things. Artists just don't get paid anymore.

Two Large Pink Elephants in the Room

(Assuming that this culture of free music is the downfall of good music....)

Why is it that you've addressed Spotify and Radiohead? Why address any one entity for the shift in music consumption? I don't think any of this began with ideology. The first Napster (Kazaa, Limewire, etc.) users, many of them barely pubescent in the early proliferation of these services, didn't start downloading music to stick it to greedy record executives or to make a stand on behalf of unfairly compensated musicians; they downloaded music because that was the optimal decision for them to make given the relatively higher costs associated with buying music. Ideology may be what keeps people buying music in the age of torrents, but it is hardly the primary reason that so many turn to free downloads or streaming services.

Free music consumption is a rational approach given the technological environment that we live in, and that is why it is undertaken. Even despite any hazardous consequences (struggling new artists, loss in revenue for established artists, reduction in funding on the part of the record companies), you cannot ask or rationally expect consumers, as a group, to pay for what they are offered free of charge. Many music consumers are not in the financial position to do so, and even those who are may be unwilling to given the strong financial disincentive. More than that, there are disincentives to buying music that are wholly unconnected to the cost of music, like the classic free rider problem (ex: if I pay for this music, how am I to know that I'm contributing to the health of the music industry unless I know that others are paying with me? I don't... and therefore it is irrational of me to pay. It's just like shopping at large conglomerates at the expense of small business and competition. Is it harmful? Yes. Can I feasibly do otherwise given what others are doing? No).

This entire sphere is nothing but reactions to incentives. The architects of file sharing responded to their technological landscape. Consumers responded to market incentives. The creators of Spotify responded to the consumers' response to market incentives. Radiohead, as any one of their In Rainbows-strategy interviews will tell you, responded to their former strained relationship with EMI, the threat of their album being leaked (as they had been previously), and current technological innovations (by which they could communicate directly with their fans, experiment on both the artistic and financial sides of their work, and release a product on a time scale with which they were comfortable).

It doesn't mean anything to tell people to pay for music, even if you get some people to do it. There needs to be a dialogue between industry and consumer. This dialogue should include information available to the public, such as the breakdown of what percentage of which profits go to whom, so that the artist will not be taken advantage of and the consumer will sure of it (because if the consumer knows the artist is being screwed, then ideology is a factor). And for any of that to occur, there unfortunately must be a system of regulation in music downloading. This is a system I do not want or support, but without which illegal downloading may never cease and any argument against it is moot.

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As a final note, I would just like to reiterate that what I've written is conditional on the supposition that "free music" is the undoing of "quality music." I remain unconvinced on that front, and that is why I do not advocate piracy-regulation. I refer to your words here:

"Sure we save a couple dollars, but the culture of one-hit-wonders, reality star divas, and the general cycle of crap that gets churned out by the pop culture machine has only worsened, thanks to musical Reaganomics. They say the customer is always right, but when the customer stops valuing the product, why bother investing in its production?"

And I counter your words with the information reported here:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/12-extremely-disappointing-facts-about-popular-mus

With which I mean to say: perhaps the music industry promotes tawdry pop acts because tawdry pop acts are immensely profitable, and that immense profitability has *nothing* to do with what I pay for music.

-pitchthewoo

Bobby Digital

Disagree. If Spotify didn't exist I wouldn't have listened to (let alone discovered) 75% of the bands I've heard in the last month (do to the Spotify platform's "Related Artists" function), and then they wouldn't have any of my money at all, let alone the small % they do get. If any really tickle my fancy I'll probably buy their stuff. The fact that every song I play gets shared on Facebook is actually an asset to the band as well. I think that viewing Spotify as valuable to artists only as a distribution tool is myopic, they help spread the word about a band, and with more and more and more artists releasing material every day gaining a small percentage of mindshare is very important. Oh, and because of this article I'm now going to Spotify to check out "The Weekend". Proof that word of mouth, especially digital, can make a band.

The Weeknd

Sorry, The Weeknd is not available on Spotify. The Weeknd is mentioned in this article for a very particular reason. They are one of the most recent, and most hyped examples of artists who are profitable as a result of their 'free music' approach. (The Weeknd gives all of his music away for free, but earns somewhere in the high 20K's for a live show now). The article points out that these anomalies tend to get people to all too quickly to agree on this model being for EVERYONE. It is not. In fact, it's true for a marginal number of artists. Self-distribution methods like Bandcamp and Soundcloud have made it easier for artists to get their material out, for sure, but they have a long way ahead of them as far as being the concrete enablers of profit through free music.

Let's say you worked for a

Let's say you worked for a big company and you were given an entry level position. (To be clear...there is no "entry level" position in music. You have be the best right out of the gate and you practice and hone your craft on your own time...there is no paid internship, there is no training. Oh, and nearly every musician you listen to has most likely been practicing [aka. working] longer then you have been in the regular workforce all together and by a good number of years...can you say that you have been training and doing your job since you were 9? Because I can.) Irregardless, you are given this entry-level job, it doesn't pay well. In fact, in order to let you do this job, you have to take another job that you don't enjoy as much. But you like this job so much and there's a chance that if you work hard enough and long enough you can eventually live comfortably off of it. (To be clear, there is no "advancement opportunities" in music. You either make it or you starve. There's no severance, there's no paid vacations, there's no sick days. There is no company health insurance or tenure. You can't be a "musician in training" and then be an "apprentice musician" and work really hard and kiss enough ass to be a "CEO musician". You work hard at the equivialant level of a upper level manager or the sole owner of a small business for no money and hope it pays off in the end-all the while knowing full well that there are people out there who do your job for free). So you are working really hard and the company tells you that everyone with your same level job will now be working for 1/1,000th of the normal wage. They are able to justify that by saying that a bunch of higher ups in the company are going to be watching you work and they might just be impressed enough to offer you a raise. Only problem is that you are working the same job with thousands of other people and the higher ups aren't really willing to give out raises, they just want the work to be done cheaper and quicker. You don't think that your hard work should go unpaid but your bosses say that you should be grateful for this opportunity to be exposed to the board members (or whoever the "higher ups" are) That's what spotify is like. You see a homeless guy on the street, you have a dollar, a quarter, and a penny in your pocket. When you use spotify and say that that .00016 cent is "better then nothing" is basically like giving that homeless guy the penny and saying he should be thankful he got anything at all. This is right. As a listener, spotify is amazing, lots of new music can be heard there legally by lots and lots of people. But be honest, how many bands have you heard on spotify and liked their album enough to buy the CD at full price? You can be honest and answer none because that would be my answer. You might go and check out "The Weeknd" but chances are that they will just be another group you checked out once on spotify for free and forgot about just as quickly. The truth is, people simply aren't going to pay for what they get for free. Spotify needs to reform their payout model or risk losing the support of many major and indie labels. tl;dr. When you say that musicians should be glad they are getting anything at all for their work and that .00016 of a penny is better then nothing....just relate that to whatever job you work in and tell me if that is fair or not. Imagine the average song is 2:30's long. In the time it took you to listen to that song. A teenager at his first job working at McDonalds for minimum wage ($7.25/hr) will make $.30. And that artist will make 1/1,875th that much. What you are telling me is that nearly 2,000 of your favourite artists equals one pimply kid picking his nose behind a grill.

Scale

To compare the math you have to compare it fairly. I don't agree or disagree in theory with what you're saying, mostly agree, but that song can be streamed many times a second around the world so the .00016 of a penny (if that's what it is), is multiplied. The goal is to get more plays. A kid at McDonalds gets his $.30 alone and not an additional $.00016 for every other kid at his level for the same minute of work at McDonalds, they just get $.30 no matter what anyone else does. I'm not saying the percentages are right, but you can't compare it to one kids salary, it's not how it works. That kid also can't sell (even if competing against thousands of others) his 2:30 minute song to be synchronized on Entourage and make $25,000 instantly plus all of the performance royalties every time and everywhere that episode is aired by a bonafide provider. The industry sucks for stuggling artists, but there's no reason they can't get a second job and work their ass off to make it. Many have and it pays off. Entrepreneurs do it all the time unless they are rich or have rich friends. They suck it up and beat the odds. The successful artists and bands probably do the same thing and are happy that any of their music is being heard which motivates them to work harder to get more and more of those pennies and maybe one day be just like Radiohead. That's the game. Play it or change it, but don't complain about it. We all have plenty of gripes, but they don't go aware by saying it's not fair. There are so many ways and nothing is easy.

Not Buying YOU.

To those who employ the, "If I like an artist's stuff, I buy it" argument... I ask this: How many records have you actually paid for in 2011? How many shows have you paid to see? And how much artist merchandise have you actually bought? Now compare that to how much music you listen to. I'd bet a testicle your numbers don't add up.

Thank you for calling people

Thank you for calling people out on this. For the majority, it's a false claim only made by people who want to make themselves look better than a common thief. Additionally, the only media that seems to be doing well right now is vinyl. However, I find it ironic that while people do pay for vinyl, often the more popular indie releases are then flipped immediately on eBay or wherever for 3 or 4x the retail cost. So, not only are we downloading music for free, we're also making money off someone else's work.

Probably between £500 and £1000

Somewhere between 40% and 50% of that will be bands I'd never heard of before, but liked a track on youtube or grooveshark, then decided I'd take a punt on a CD.

I rarely go to gigs. £20-30 to be crammed in like sheep and paying £5 a pint, plus transport? That's 6 or 7 CDs of new music right there.

Bobby Digital

Disagree. If Spotify didn't exist I wouldn't have listened to (let alone discovered) 75% of the bands I've heard in the last month (do to the Spotify platform's "Related Artists" function), and then they wouldn't have any of my money at all, let alone the small % they do get. If any really tickle my fancy I'll probably buy their stuff. The fact that every song I play gets shared on Facebook is actually an asset to the band as well. I think that viewing Spotify as valuable to artists only as a distribution tool is myopic, they help spread the word about a band, and with more and more and more artists releasing material every day gaining a small percentage of mindshare is very important. Oh, and because of this article I'm now going to Spotify to check out "The Weekend". Proof that word of mouth, especially digital, can make a band.

Streaming services

We believe the streaming services can provide a valuable opportunity for unknown bands to get recognized and noticed. In all likelihood, streaming services, such as Spotify, do not help the established artists recover income for their long-term efforts. There needs to be a major restructuring of these streaming services before musicians and artists will ever profit from their creative efforts, whether they are established or just starting out. The way things are now, there is definitely major unfairness. While we, at Rock Cousteau, never support piracy in any fashion, we believe there is a way for the artists to get heard while also profiting from their efforts. Liv, Luv & Rock....Cousteau! www.rockcousteau.com

radiohead...

radiohead asked their fans to pay as much or as little as they wished for the album. in my mind- this honor system approach does exactly the opposite of what this article accuses radiohead of doing- "teaching us that, as consumers, we aren't responsible for compensating our artists". it gives the consumer the chance to reflect on what a product is worth to them and pay it on their own accord. i think it is brilliant and refreshing.

I think the internet is the

I think the internet is the prime cause of all the economic problems in the developed world. But I can't prove it of course. But if everything is free who is making money?? Its like a ponzi scheme for everything!

Kids These Days: Spotify, Radiohead, and the Devaluation of Musi

Agree with most of this, I would just like to share my reason for liking Spotify because I am not unique. My life would have been pretty arid without music, its composers, musicians, lyricists and vocalists... I value them hugely. I've bought 93% of the 78, 45 and 33 1/3 rpm, CDs and DVDs I own and Spotify provides me with the remaining 7% that up until recently I could only feel nostalgia for: tracks from the early to mid 20th century that I would willingly pay to own/hear again but which are not easily found or unavailable. It is a gift to once more hear original, innovative trailblazers whose work influenced so much of what we listen to now. And I'm not ashamed for making play lists from Spotify of tracks I already own in another format. Legislation for fairer reproduction fees I support, but please don't kill Spotify. Val Simmonds

Agreed, except for the

Agreed, except for the following: "Spotify doesn't pay pennies on the dollar, it pays pennies on the penny." Pennies on the penny would actually be better, you see? Spotify is paying pennies on the thousand. (Not as catchy of course).

Copyrighted Intellectual Materials a Thing of the Past?

Until you have actually received a BMI check, cashed it, and then paid a BILL with it, spare me your ruminations on a future filled with freebies. We should try to find better means for compensating people for their work, not criticize them when they stand up against the larceny of file sharing.

easy money ?

Hello to everyone, I am David, and I am an italian musician.
I am lucky, cause my band, The Mantra ATSMM, works with an english label, and I have been touring, with the help of this label, around the U.S.A., the Greece, the U.K., and of course the Italy. We found this label in the "myspace" golden age, so we used internet to built something. As a band we don't expect that Mr x will find us and will make us famous and rich, we just expect to make everything step by step.
Today is extremely important to try to create a new network of people, involved in music, that doesn't care about an easy money earned.
Don't forget that the most important things in this world are built brick by brick, stone by stone.
That is why where I find people interested in listening to some new music I try to promote myself.
This is my band page on fb : www.facebook.com/themantraatsmm
This is my youtube page : www.youtube.com/themantraatsmm
and this is our email : themantraatsmm@gmail.com
Nothing more to say, maybe tomorrow i will have one more listener.
Ciao
David

Pay for Play

At the end of the article the author says... "Point is, it's hard out there for the little guys, the unknowns." Is it supposed to be easy? Are the little guys & unknowns thinking they'd be raking in Metalica money if only people wouldn't pirate? There's always been a pure pay-for-play system that's available... it's called Busking. Do you complain that people walked by, heard your song and didn't pay? So it's the person who hears your music that's at fault for you not making money? If you expect large dollars, you need to 'invest' in more strategies and partners to get those dollars. That's why artists use Radio, Records, Internet, Touring and Promotions... to make large money from a song. Quit crying that " Doesn't anyone understand... Artists work hard!" Every craft person works hard, has trained and is a special person at some level. You chose the life... live it.

artists and money

You obviously are not an artist/songwriter/musician. Your diatribe is completely ignorant of facts. There is a larger attitude at play here. The attitude, which you so smugly express, that music should be free for the listeners and the artists should just "grow up and deal with it". Well, I'm 59. I've been "dealing with it" for 46 years. I raised two kids in LA and Austin while I was "dealing with it". But the game has changed drastically over the past 10 years. Not only do people not want to pay for the recorded music, but now club owners feel that they no longer need to pay either. What used to be guaranteed paid gigs for the majority of working musicians has become a new form of "busking". I, personally, don't feel I should have to "busk", go around with hat in hand at the end of my set like a beggar, in a club that is making money off of my music selling drinks and food while I play. Most musicians are not in the Lady Gaga/Metallica economic sphere. Most of us rely on the club scene to pay our rent, food and other living expenses. Until 10 years ago this was possible if still difficult. Today it is becoming much less possible. The well spring from which new musicians creating new music is drying up. When you don't pay musicians the musicians you end up hiring have to have other jobs. This makes them amatuer musicians. Would you want to go to a doctor who has to have another job to pay the bills? Why would you want less from a musician? It takes about the same amount of study and knowledge to become a true professional musician as it does any other profession. Why should musicians be the only profession to give away their hard earned knowledge for free? On a personal note, my solution has been to move back to Europe. The scene has changed here as well but it is still more possible to earn a living as an artist here than in America or some other places I have been. You see, I AM dealing with it. But you need to "grow up" and get real.

Valuing music/artists

You didn't really understand the article, did you?

Wow, what a defensive and

Wow, what a defensive and spotty analogy. Buskers are playing for free, in public, and not really demanding money. That's entirely different than downloading an artist's entire catalog without giving them a dime, because you're too cheap and lazy to pay for the thousands of hours of effort that went into it. Secondly, nobody makes money off touring (unless your name is Lady Gaga). Then you blame the artist 'you choose the life, live it'. No, the choice is yours. You are deliberately choosing to rip off artists, because you're cheap. Weak.

Incorrect. The life chose us.

Incorrect. The life chose us. We are adapting.

Wow, way to miss the entire

Wow, way to miss the entire point of the article.

How did this ever get published.

this guy JUST had an "epiphany" that a song is worth less than a candy bar?? It's been that way for a decade, homeboy. This is such a tired, worn-out argument. Recorded music will be free in the future. For good. Get over it. This is just so completely out of touch. "Bands don't break through blogs." YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME. The Weekend completely broke because of pitchfork and now pulls in 25K per show. (See that evidence here: http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/industry/digital-and-mobile/this-week-in-...) For a band just starting out, charging for your music is like opening a store and building a moat around it. Spotify isn't why you're not making any money - it's because no one wants to come see you play. And why should they? The only thing entitled about the industry are people like the author of this article - people who think that just because they can sing and play, they're entitled to make a living and be surrounded by adoring fans. People pay for art because they want to, not because they have to. If you suck, you don't deserve shit. To author of this article: go pick up a Starbucks application. Also, please read this after you stumble through this ridiculous article: http://allthingsd.com/20111028/music-for-nothing-and-the-fans-for-free/?...

You say "people pay for art

You say "people pay for art because they want to...if you suck, you don't deserve shit". You can say people pay for anything because they want to...or more specifically, they want that item they are buying. If someone goes out and torrents an artist's entire discography...they obviously don't suck and they should get paid for the years of work that went into producing those records. Another thing you don't take into account is there are more people then just the artist that are cutting up this paltry sum. There are record producers, agents, booking agencies, record labels, legal fees (our band paid over 150 dollars for just one album just to be able to own the copyrights to the songs we wrote and recorded ourselves), distribution and production companies etc etc. So not buying music doesn't just choke out the original artists whose work we are taking for granted, but there's a whole network of people who helped to bring this product you are stealing to life.

"people who think that just

"people who think that just because they can sing and play, they're entitled to make a living and be surrounded by adoring fans" uuuhm, until fairly recently in the last 20 years or so, especially before the internet - most famous rock bands experienced that exact type of entitlement, albeit at the mercy of some lying-ass, thieving record companies. It's not the same now and if you ever loved music, your life will change in regards to so many talented people not being able to sustain themselves on music alone, like so many musicians did back in the 20th century. Radiohead said that despite their failure to climb to the top of whomevers' pop charts, when they decided to become their own bosses, they made more money than when they had agents. Back in olden times, a song was worth way more than a candy bar, although maybe more to the record company than the artist who wrote it. Try to live without music, or maybe deal with living without any new music. Go ahead and listen to only the Rolling Stones and ACDC til the day you die and nothing more. Enjoy it, and maybe learn how to play guitar. It's also kind of like how businesses are going to have to really decrease/eliminate - executive/agent pay rates because the economy cant sustain them anymore. Radiohead was ahead of it's time. Why bother with a middleman, why not completely profit from your talent? More bands are doing it. Get used to paypal for your musical future, buddy. Unless of course you choose to pirate if you don't get used to the 21st century ways of musical business. Because of their timeline in music, the members of U2 will never have to work in restaurants, but you might eventually see the members of Arcade Fire doing that, because that is how it is now. You might see a lot of talented people stop performing because it won't be worth it as opposed to some 9-5 type of job that pays the rent. That is tragic.

Inspector fu

In the "olden days" there was no recorded music and a scant few made their money singing before lords, dukes and kings. Things have gotten better for musicians, not worse.

oh man...

you are full of vitriol! On that article you pasted the URL of I responded with this URl, where I think I had covered a lot of these points: http://digitalaudioinsider.blogspot.com/2010/03/interview-with-jonathan-... "the new patronage" is no better than the old. we get to hear what advertisers pay for. also, check here: http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/news.php?id=90886 Sorry, got to go to rehearse.

Where the Money's Going

It's nice that people *think* that small bands can still make it big from being hard working touring musicians, but the fact is people aren't going out to see live music on a Tuesday night like they were in the 1990s & that means touring for young bands is a loss leader. Shoot, they say Lady Gaga lost money on her one UK tour. But here's part of what I think is going on now compared to the 1990s. In the 1990s hardly anyone had a cell phone or a computer much less the internet & video games were for geeks. Think about how much extra free money you'd have every month that you would invest in entertainment (be it buying a CD, going out to a show, going to a movie, whatever) that you have tied up today? At least $100 per month? A lot of struggling bands are playing gigs with $5-$10 entrance fees, that's a lot of shows every month! Not too mention there is a thing where if you are paying $50 a month for internet you feel like you better be getting your money's worth so you end up in your room watching YouTube instead of going out for the night. It's a cultural shift & just the way it looks like it's going to be.

W the money's going... EXACTLY!

Yes. Exactly. Musical styles and tastes have changed too. Someone mentioned a band being successful making 20K a night. A band can't survive on this. A single re-mixer or DJ can and you know what? That's exactly what the younger generation wants now. They could give a shit about a 5 piece band with a great singer and a couple of guitar players burning the latest 3 octave arpeggios. And you know what? All the guitar players can do that. 16th notes at 240 bpm. Blazing fast but who gives a shit? It's common place thus boring.

Back just before the the internet took over as our supply pipe Major labels were told that digital distribution was coming. They needed to invest in digital watermarking. Did they? No. They took huge bonuses instead. As anyone with a right mind would. (Cite: Mix Magazine, Date: Unsure-look it up, Confirmed by a record company executive...do your own homework).

I was in a very hot band who got hired for an employee party at a popular vacation resort. We were seen by the HR person at another popular resort. (Sorry no names). We were playing everything off the charts exactly like it sounded. Just ten years earlier had we played at the same place they would not have let us stop playing and would have asked for "overtime". This gig?... They all stood around and no one danced. No one. Not one. They looked bored. They looked disinterested. We stopped after three songs to re-group and figure out what songs we could do to get them up to dance. The sound guy offered to spin some CDs to fill the air while we were figuring out what to do next. When he put the first disk on, the kids piled onto the floor. You couldn't walk through them without being smashed because there was no room. That's when I saw the writing on the wall. The glory days of the live band were over. They didn't want a live band. They wanted a disk spinning. And DJs? They are just an extension of the spinning disk except they did it in a new way. Next came a guy with a computer only he added a control interface and some new virtual synths with sounds and control beyond what we could even imagine being able to do with a keyboard 10 years ago using some oscillators and ADSR.

Speaking of DJs... I nearly puked in a guys face one time because he said to me: "Yeah you and me have a lot in common, we are both musicians". I said; "Really? What do you play?" To which he replied; "I am a DJ". He considered himself a musician because he put CDs on and played them and used crafty fades from one to the other and speeded them up and slowed them down to keep the BPM going steadily. (That's exactly what he did, none of the talent the re-mixer have now, they work hard at their craft) I wanted to tell the guy exactly what I thought which was "No. You are no musician. Until you've struggled your whole life to tame an instrument then gone to a 4 year college, auditioned and were good enough to get in and taken composition classes, performance classes, music history classes and had to learn a classical piece that you had to play for 3 months just to get it to sound the way it should, then perform it in a music jury - you are no musician."

Don't get me started on these blokes and bloke-ettes who have never been to a music school and call themselves "Artists". Until you have gone to a music school - or ANY school and studied musical styles or taken at least one music history class, or sight reading, or composition class, you don't know shit about music and have no right to even use the term "Artist" to define yourself. The parents of this generation have decided that classes in the arts are not important. Computers, Production, Accounting and FOOTBALL are. THAT'S the problem. If we were doing something like Venezuela's Youth Orchestra. Do you think we would have internet piracy? No Way... kids would be at home practicing their instruments and wouldn't have time to fool around with surfing the internet. But why? Because parents don't want their kid making racket, they want to come home to peace and quiet. Kids sit in front of violence on the boob tube or jump on and surf for things on the internet to get into trouble with or worse - play shooting games like "Medal of Blubber". Why would these kids want to work when all they have to do is push a button to get what they want or flip a channel to be more entertained then they were five minutes ago. We have reaped what we have sown.

I will be at home tomorrow working on my next CD. Do I expect to earn a living? NO - I DON'T. I could care less. I enjoy writing and recording. It's enjoyable. I must do it. I don't have a choice. It's how I am wired. Just like a guy who loves football or a gal who MUST paint. Am I competent enough to make a living? Sure! Will I?... NO because the landscape has changed. 200 million other musicians now have the technology of a 2 million dollar recording studio from 15 years ago in their hot little hands on their laptops. This is the huge shift we have known would happen we just don't know how to deal with it and what's going to happen. It will all probably shake out in another 10 years but I will probably be dead before then. Is it possible I might be able to make a decent living playing/creating music in this day, age and climate? Who knows but I am sure going to do everything I can to learn about the BUSINESS of my craft and stop bitching about people stealing what they probably don't care about anyway. If it's important they will pay for it. Commerce is demand. If you are trying to push what the market doesn't want - you're going to starve. Change the product or find another product that people want. THAT's business. Don't know about business? Then expect to pay someone who does and don't complain when they ask for HALF. Oh... I forgot - not half... it's .29 cents per song for you on itunes, they get the bulk of the money, you better get busy now and you better be good and you better make more than one album.

OK. End of rant. Have a wonderful day! P.S. Sorry for any grammatical errors. My grammar sucks.

well said, fred.

who cares about grammar...you hit the nail right on the head.

This is the best comment I

This is the best comment I have read in ages. You have totally summed up what has happened since the millenium.

very valid points here.

very valid points here.

Just a thought...

The article writes that the artists are only getting $0.0013 per play.

Ok, I bought an album 1 year ago for $9.99, where the label takes the largest chunk. They got $10 from me, no more. I've played that album multiple times a day for over a year.

Let's be conservative and say that's 365 plays of the album (considering I may have missed some days and played it more than three times on others).

If I had gone to Spotify in that same instance - 365 plays X 11 songs on the album is 4015 plays. That's $5.22. If the plays diminish by half each year for 4 years that's $9.78.

I'm not saying that $0.0013 is a fair amount - perhaps a little more would be better.

Point is - In either case - 4 years down the road, I paid $10 for the record.

When you buy a record, most of your money is going to the label. Very little to manufacturing & very little to the actual artists.

Music is digital now, like it or not. We need a way for the artist to get paid, not the label.

How many albums are sold for only one song where the person paid $14 for the CD, but only play the one "hit"? The label is still making that money.

Why not pay the artist EVRY TIME the song is played in perpetuity? Not the label. The artist.

That's a very base argument, I know - as there're marketing & touring costs, etc, etc, that the label pays... initially -- the artists ultimately has to pay this back - 'recoup' is the worst word any signed artist learns for the first time.

Would you have heard that

Would you have heard that band purely by stumbling across them on the internet? Perhaps, but also possible as a result of reading about them, hearing their track on the radio, seeing them support another band or playing... All of which is achievable without label support, but easier with - you're paying for the experience, contacts and time of others. You can put your own album out but not everyone has the independent clout to get it played on mainstream channels, reviewed by mainstream press, book themselves into decent venues, get a cd made for 60p, sold into HMV... of course not every musician wants any of this, and not every label gives their artists a fair deal, but if you bemoan labels taking a big cut of the profits I think you're being blinkered to why a lot of artists choose to sign deals with them.

"If the plays diminish by

"If the plays diminish by half each year for 4 years that's $9.78." Seriously?! I don't want to take a confrontational tone because you walk it back by saying "[your argument is] a very base argument." I also concede your naively noble sentiment that "[consumers should] pay the artist EVRY TIME (sic) the song is played ..." However, I've had a lot of time to think about this, before I ever happened upon your comment, and here is why your argument is all wrong: Artists have more options to release their music to the public than at any other time in the history of recorded music. With the Internet, your music can go anywhere in the world. STOP. Think about that. You may be a jaded, green teen who believes that they have heard it all, but think about *all the history of humankind*, not just your scant years on this earth and take in the *heft* of being able to reach any free, connected market in the world from your own home. As a musician, I have chosen to distribute through CD Baby. Therefore, I DO get paid directly. The majority—sometimes the vast majority—of my sales are paid to me. And I have the power to set the price of my music according to the take that CD Baby reigns in. When I was presented that power I thought hard about it and strategized a sales tactic by which I profit the most of any party in physical CD sales, my prices are fair yada yada. BREAK. I have to point out here, given quite frankly the numerous silly ideas that you presented, that—where you say: "very little [money goes] to manufacturing"—CD manufacturers are paid upfront, they don't get a cut of the action post-sale. Manufacturers set their price. You're naive to think they mark down prices because the industry is hurting. They don't. So manufacturers get whatever they want to charge, upfront, before a single CD is shipped. Make a long story short, you can strategize sales and incentivize consumers to purchase your album in a way that is fair AND profitable to you *per-sale*, and you never have to take a loss—even if you offer CD Baby's recommended discount of 20% for consumers purchasing more than one CD. My Deluxe EP has 7 tracks. I set the digital download on CD Baby for $5.99. It will sell on iTunes and other digital markets for $6.93 so consumers are incentivized to make a purchase on CD Baby. BOOM. That strategy saved me $0.29 on the dollar per song by discouraging consumers from purchasing through iTunes and other non-CD Baby markets, without sacrificing deep digital market penetration. (If somebody buys through iTunes, and I have to pay an additional cut of $0.29 to Apple I'll take it. Who cares?) I sell my physical CDs for $10.99 because CD Baby takes a $4 cut on physical sales. My manufacturing cost for jewel cases with full-color, CD surface print and polywrap is $2 and change. I have already sold physical CDs, and my album doesn't go live in iTunes until Jan. 6, 2012. Therefore it seems like a reasonable price to ask consumers to pay. I gross $6.99 on physical CDs and net about $4.50—the best take of the manufacturer, CD Baby, and me. And the consumer can purchase two or more CDs at $8.79 each, resell one CD on eBay for $10 or more, which people have taken a liking to doing since we're talking about the big bad Internet age, and wind up paying only a little more NET for a physical CD than the digital download sells for on iTunes! So there are plenty of equitable options for artists to find a lucrative sales niche among "labels," manufacturers and the like. As far as 'recoup' being the worst word that any signed artist learns "for the first time" I have NEVER been signed, and I am *WELL* aware of that fact. If I chose to sign with a major label, given the opportunity, that decision comes with the foreknowledge that the 'contract' with the label implies compromising/subjugating my artistic standards to the producer/label to make a more marketable product, and generating enough income to keep the label relationship intact. I think you'd find it hard to locate an artist with his/her feet firmly planted on the ground who isn't aware of that fact. It's a NON-factor in the modern age. That's why I use CD Baby. Your comment that "if the plays diminish by half each year for 4-years that's $9.78" is a ludicrous mathematical equation to explain your pure fantasy as to how Spotify works. On the one extreme, Lady GaGa had her song streamed one million times for $167. Last time I checked one million streams is worth $100,000 if an album is ONE-HUNDRED songs long! Lol. And even by your standard, Lady GaGa was paid about 13% what she earned. But *forget* that. The pure truth is that NOBODY streams a song OR album for a total of 4,015 plays. Forget about your inane equation that these plays will diminish by exactly half of their current plays compounded with the passage of each year... (for 4-years). If you streamed an album that much you'd just BUY it. You WOULD. It sounds SO sad to think that the fate of a musician, whose effort, this article so rightly calls out, deserves to be respected, rests on millions of loyal fans plugging-in and logging-on to stream an album, SFW, for 13-ten-thousandths of a cent per play an equivalent number of times to purchasing the album, with such a loyalty that nonetheless results in NO album purchase. That's *BS*. If you wanted to take that tact you should have written your own blog about how album sales are dead—enter the new model: pay-per-play. But that's not what you did. That's what the author of THIS blog did, so give it a rest, man. You sound foolish.

free is good

As a working musician I can safely say that the proliferation of free music on the internet has been an enormous net benefit to me and my peers. Bands now have access to a worldwide audience by default, and the relationship between a band and its audience has never been more direct. Record company income has been hurt, but since most musicians got only a tiny fraction of what they were due from their record sales, this fact has hardly affected us. Instead, concert ticket prices have risen to something approaching their real value and alternative methods of distribution, finance and interaction on the web have directly enabled bands to conduct their careers on their own, outside the sharecropper system that had operated while the labels were in control of distribution. Seriously, this is a great time to be a musician. We're doing fine. The old showbiz establishment is the only thing being hurt by the new paradigm, and it was a pack of leeches anyway. Good riddance.

10 years later

its been 10 years and the labels are still here.. i dont think "good riddance" applies. free music has crippled if not almost killed the recording industry.. do a little research on that before you and your "peers" start sucking each other off..

No Spam Links here, just a personal opinion. Perfect Article.

I'm the owner of an Online Radio Station, that CATERS to Independent and Unsigned Artist. We do NOT charge listeners a single dime. We do NOT charge artists a single dime. The past five years have been ridiculously rough. Every-time we attempt to celebrate 4 Million Listener type milestones, another major music service arrives and is the "Next Big Thing."

What happens six months later? We are broke. The "Big Boys" are exposed for not paying their Royalty Rates appropriately, wind up charging their users, forcing ads, and all the listeners come back to us. We put forth such an effort to introduce Independent Musicians into the "Mainstream" environment that we market our entire system as mix and matching "Mainstream" with "Underground."

We receive so much praise from our artists that we promote, right along side the "Mainstream" performers that our only publicity (as of late) is retained through them.

Through the use of Soundexchange, ASCAP, BMI, SESAC and the like... we pay royalties, we pay royalties to the point that we can't always pay OUR OWN STAFF. (Lots of Volunteers strictly for that reason.)

I can assure you that Lady Gaga, has received more than $167 from us, and thanks to the Spotify, and the like, "we are no one."

Enough about us. The Internet itself, has such a broad contingency for earning money, (with the correct overhead implemented) that there is no reason to charge listeners unless they are buying the music. This is the exact structure of FM Radio. And albeit true, the Government tells us who and what to pay, its the big multi-million dollar corporations looking for reasons not to. Bands like "Blue Movie" deserve just as much promotion as "Radiohead."

The Artists give us great music, to enjoy, any which way we want. They make money from Merchandise, Concert Tickets, and Record Sales. No matter who they are. I say, if you're in this business, play by the rules. If you make the money, pay the royalties, if you don't, you better damn well enjoy it, because your still paying the royalties.

Radio isn't broken, its just delivered wrong. Let them hear a song, find it on iTunes to keep forever for $1.29. Let the stations that are legitimately free (absolutely no different that FM Radio) own up to their own responsibilities.

Some major misunderstandings undermine this article

Of course it would be nice if everyone spent a large chunk of their income on music. The fact of the matter is, the majority of people don't, won't and never did. Radio is the main form of music consumption, which pays out less per listen than services like Spotify in Europe and nothing in the US. If Spotify et al were to take a chunk of US radio's popularity, it would increase the industry's income in that area hugely. It's importatnt to remember that 1 listen does not equal one download. Also, with the rise of mobile, the potential for streaming services to turn users into paying subscribers (you incorrectly state that Spotify is available for free on mobile devices - it actually costs $10 per month) is also great. I should also point out that the $167 figure has been debunked so many times it's frankly laughable that you included it here.

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